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Pink Headphones: Raising Your Vibration w/ Dr. Cecilia Shaw

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On today’s episode of the Dreamers Succeed Podcast, we’re going to be talking to Dr. Cecilia Shaw. She is a doctor of oriental medicine and an advanced body talk practitioner. Today she’s going to be enlightening us on multi-dimensional earth on higher consciousness on the importance of raising our vibration and on ascension. This is the holy grail of all podcasts and you’re in for a real treat. We hope you enjoy.

Berta

So hi, Ceci.

Cecilia

How are you? So happy to be here.

Berta

Great.

Cecilia

Thank you for inviting me.

Berta

I’m so happy that you’re here. Guys this is going to be fun. We’re going to be talking about a lot of things that have to do with how we’re living aligned with who we are. Her specialty, just so you know for those of you who don’t know her and you will throughout the episode and you can look her up, is really to just get people out of their own way. It's really to clear everything that we’re hanging onto that shouldn’t be there and doesn’t belong. You’re going to be hearing about how she does that and the results that she’s had for her patients so far. So are you ready?

Cecilia

Yeah, woo!

Berta

Okay so if I looked you up in a dictionary, what would it say?

Cecilia

If you looked me up in the dictionary, it would say 'evolving.'

Berta

I love that. Tell me a little bit about what that means.

Cecilia

I feel or I am continuously evolving. we’re continuously evolving throughout our lives. you’re not the same person that you were yesterday today. You’re not the same person you were last year. Tomorrow you’re going to be someone different than you are right now. We're continuously evolving on all levels. We are cells, you know dying. We get new cells on the daily. We just evolve, we continuously evolve all the way until the level of consciousness. I know that I am evolving from the level ATOM (or is it ADAM) but from that level all the way to the higher consciousness levels where we are now experiencing a huge shift in the evolution on the universal and consciousness level.

Berta

So do you think that people have to be conscious about their evolution or is it organic? Is it that if you’re more intentional is it do you get better results?

Cecilia

I believe that it depends on what level the person is. By level I don’t mean higher or lower but where they are in their life; if they are conscious of it or not. Once you are conscious then, yes, you move faster because you can see the difference and you notice when you're evolving. You’re more aware and more present on the daily. However if you’re not even aware, then you are evolving. People get older or they grow. Children are not aware that they’re evolving yet they’re still growing but that’s a more physiological level. It depends on the level of their path that the person is in at the moment.

Berta

So it’s just different for each person.  I don’t mean the physiological but I think with the mental, the spiritual, all those things that we’re becoming much more aware of as a humanity of where we need to be going. Especially mindfulness. Do you think that there’s something that molds people? and I know you see a lot of people and you do a lot of work. Through the course of your travels and the exposure that you’ve had as a practitioner, would you say that most people get that there needs to be a shift?

Cecilia

No.

Berta

No.

Cecilia

Most people in my world -- yes. I’d say 90%.  Those that I surround myself with just because we’re in the same network and in the same industry, yes. A lot of people are not aware at all; they have no idea. You talk to them and they’re like, "well I’m not there yet." I’ve had patients that I’ve spoken to them about this and they will tell me straight out I have no idea what you’re talking about.

Berta

Would you say they’re acknowledging that there is a there or not even?

Cecilia

They would have no clue because then they’ll go right back to, "I want my husband to just do this." Or, "I want to lose more weight." They’re not realizing that those are a lot of  superficial requests. I tend to whatever level they’re coming from. I have to meet them where they are. They will say, "I’m not there yet," having no clue where there is or where what “there” means.

Berta

We’ve all heard for the most part about eastern medicine: the benefits of acupuncture and herbal remedies vs. traditional western remedies or band-aids that the pharmaceuticals are labeling and selling to everyone. Most people don’t know what body talk is and that sort of spiritual healing on an energetic level.

Cecilia

As we know, everything is energy. Everything is atoms vibrating at an energetic level. Nothing is solid: not this table. It appears solid but it’s just that the atoms are vibrating that close.

Our bodies are the same. Imagine if you had a bird's eye view of a traffic jam or of a highway. There's a traffic jam somewhere. Those the cars represent where there’s energy that’s stuck that’s not moving. We are able, through body talk, through your own body, to find where there is an obstacle that’s not allowing the energy to flow like its supposed to. We are able to see that using a biofeedback system. We're getting in touch with the person’s higher self. Through their physical body, they’re responding to us what it is that is out of balance on all levels: physical, physiological, emotional, mental, spiritual, energetic, environmental... at whatever level we’re going to be able to access with priority what it is that they need in that session.

They need to balance [those] so that other things can start flowing. The whole purpose of that is to align them to their purpose; to get them to do introspection to the point where they realize we are all one -- we are all connected. For example, if you have a train on a track, its on its path; it's aligned. It's going to go. If you are that train and you get derailed and you’re off the track you’re not going to go anywhere. That doesn’t mean that where you were headed there were people that were going to get on that train and people were going to get off and it was going to move on. These are symbolic, of course, of people in your life or situations in your life.

If you’re derailed, those people are still at the stops… you just don’t see them and you’re not going to get to them because you’re the one that’s out of line. Many people say, “Nothing is happening for me; nothing ever happens; nothing ever comes. I don’t see anything happening; I don’t reach my goals.” The goals are there. What’s not there is you. You’re the one that’s not on your path. You’re not aligned.

This is what body talk does. We get specifically how many degrees you are off alignment. Your body will tell us. With every session we get you a little bit closer to putting that train back on its track. That’s pretty much what body talk does. That includes healing. A lot of times, the person will be there because they want to resolve something that’s happening in their environment at home… at work; something that’s bothering them emotionally, spiritually, energetically. They’ll come in and the priority is something that’s physiological. Like, “Your small intestine is not linking to the limbic brain.” They’ll say, “What does that have to do with my environment?”

Everything. If one thing is off, that means something else got thrown off which means something else got thrown off [etc]. There are a lot of emotions that are involved with the hormones – with the brain and your thought patterns. Depending on how you think, that’s how you see things. You may think something is off at home. Maybe things are not off at home; maybe you’re the one that’s off because all these things that are happening in your system. People are not aware that every body part, every organ, every endocrine has a consciousness and has its own system.

For example: the small intestine has a heart, has a brain, has eyes, has the five senses. Every part of you has an entire system. It’s that deep. We can talk about this for hours and hours, but in a nutshell: body talk is to align and balance you on all levels so you can become aligned. By becoming aligned, you’re aligned with source and the great divine. There’s where your purpose is. There’s where you get to manifest.

Berta

What gets us derailed? I almost seems like a stupid question as I’m asking, but I’m curious because I know it’s different for everyone.

Cecilia

It could be internal things. We can have an illness. But a lot of external influences derail us. Something that happened to a relative [could have taken] us off guard. Something at work – it could be anything. It could be even a scare that someone cut you off and you thought you were going to crash and you feel that fear. That throws you off balance. That’s very normal. It’s almost impossible to avoid these things, but being aware and being present with what’s happening and saying, ‘okay, let me take a breath, let me realign myself...’ these are things that are happening outside. You take the time to realign yourself then you can keep going. But we don’t. There’s a situation and we fester in that situation. We keep digging and digging and digging. Now look what’s happening. Because of this now look what’s happening.

Every time they go deeper and deeper instead of saying, ‘I’m going to allow the universe to take care of this. There’s only so much I can do.’ We think we have control but we have zero control. Sometimes maybe we think we have control. You can choose your toothpaste and you go to CVS and maybe they’re out of stock. We really don’t have control at that level. Knowing that – being aware and being present can bring you back to that balance.

Berta

So that’s how we can keep from getting super derailed. But there has to already be alignment, would you say?

Cecilia

I think that we are all born in alignment. Look at kids when they’re little: they know things. There’s a saying that goes, “If you want advice, ask a three year old.” They’ll tell it to you just like it is. They’re not programmed yet. All these belief systems get in the way. They derail us just because the way that we think. So when there’s a situation… how many times something good isn’t going to happen for someone and they feel they don’t deserve it? Because they’ve grown up in poverty? This looks really good but, ‘I’m sure it’s not going to work out because we grew up poor so that’s not for me.’

I think George Lopez, on one of his comedy [albums] – the kid goes home because he got a job and the grandmother is laughing like, ‘come on.’ The way we’ve been raised, those belief systems, have a lot to do with the way we see our lives and the way we live it and what we allow into our lives. It’s subconscious, too, so we don’t even know. It’s a sense of non-deserving.

Berta

I had a great conversation with a friend of mine yesterday about that deservedness. Sometimes, it’s what’s causing the self-sabotage but it’s so subtle that we don’t even know it.

Cecilia

Because it’s subconscious! That’s how it’s supposed to be. We don’t even realize that it’s a thing. That it’s a thing that shouldn’t be. We think that that’s just the way it is, you know?

Berta

Do you think that a lot of that misalignment can come from fear?

Cecilia

Absolutely.

Berta

Would you say fear is a big contributor or… I’m a firm believer and I’ve read this before that we’re only born with two fears: the fear of falling and the fear of loud noises. Everything else is like you’re saying. It’s deposited by our family and society and our teachers and who knows what. Before you know it, you’re thirty years old and you’re afraid of frickin’ everything. So that awareness – would you say that just the awareness of having to find that alignment is enough to make  you seek? Why would somebody seek to go to body talk.

Cecilia

Absolutely. Awareness is a beginning to any solution. If you’re not aware, there’s no way you can ever reach solutions to a situation or reach a goal. If you’re not aware of your goal, how can you reach it, right? If you’re not aware of the problem, how can you fix it? It’s the same thing. Being aware that you are maybe not in alignment. If you’re even present and you’re aware of even your body – because our body will tell us everything. Everything manifests in our body. All illnesses… I don’t know if you’ve read The Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton. It’s stress. Disease is dis-ease. You’re not having ease. You’re having a dis-ease.

It all stems from emotional issues. It really does. If you’re sick to your stomach – for example you’re having digestive issues – that’s a clear indicator that something is going on. There’s something in life that you’re not digesting. It comes down to the physiological level. All the levels are connected. If you pay attention to your body, it will tell you everything. If you pay attention to your thoughts – to your sleeping patterns… be aware. Be aware of your intuition. When you’re feeling something, [for example], “This doesn’t feel right… I’m not going to go down this alleyway.” Then you keep going and you look and you see that something bad just happened there. Being present and being aware on all levels will keep you aligned.

Berta

How do you get that message out: pay attention? How many times does something bad happen and someone says, “I have a feeling I shouldn’t have done that.” Or, “I have a feeling I shouldn’t have gone there.” I know people who are very intuitive. I just had a conversation with someone yesterday; a surgery where everything has gone wrong. She says she was aware as they were doing it that she shouldn’t have been doing it.

Cecilia

They don’t trust their intuition. They don’t trust. They don’t know if its their mind playing a trick on them or if its their actual intuition.

Berta

So how do you know?

Cecilia

(laughter) You take the mindscape class and you develop it! [Digressing] Intuition comes from a place of knowing. There’s the difference: it’s a knowing. It’s not a thought process – you just know. If you have to think about it so much it’s probably not your intuition. Intuition is like: “I know this, you can’t tell me anything different.”

Like when your kids come home. You know something is up. They can lie to you, but you know. That mother instinct… you just know. You know your kids and all you did was look at them and you just knew. You didn’t have to think about it. Maybe he wasn’t feeling good and that’s why he did that thing with his eyes. Maybe that’s why he turned away from me. No, you just know. The difference is that knowing. You just know.

Berta

I know you’ve always been very connected, even as a child you’ve always been very connected. So how did you – with everything you went through in your life…. I want you to share a little bit about your journey, whatever you’re comfortable sharing, then go to whatever you’re uncomfortable sharing. I know you did all this badass shit as a single mom of two kids and you did it on your own and you were like, screw it, I’m going to do it and this is how it’s going to happen and this is what I want to manifest.

You just did it. How did you get off of that derailment when you didn’t have the tools? I believe that you saw the tools but there has to have been something that you had already in you to start that process without all these tools you have now.

Cecilia

Well, the universe is a fabulous place that we live in. The universe guides you to where you need to go. However, if you’re very rigid and you fight it, it’s going to take longer for you to get there. I’ve always been more of a flowy type of person. I’ll go here and I’ll go there. Sometimes, it’s not a great thing but it worked when the universe was guiding me to get on that path. I was open.

When I did the doctor program, I almost had a nervous breakdown thinking, “What if I can’t do it?” Then that thought is like, “What if you can? What have you got to lose by trying?” I always think; you’re really the only one on this planet or in this universe. Everybody else is just a figment of your imagination and they’re just there because they’re mirrors and reflections of you.

You’ve put them there to challenge you and help you grow your consciousness. For me, the purpose of this life is God experiencing himself through us. We need to expand the consciousness so that he expands and the universe expands. The universe is continuously evolving, and so is source or the divine or God or whatever you want to call it – through us. I’ve allowed that to guide me.

Berta

So you have been open to trusting… even when the path probably was like, “what the hell… what?”

Cecilia

Always.

Berta

So would you say that you used the gift to your advantage in being sort of pliable, flexible…

Cecilia

What is my gift?

Berta

That connection and intuition.

Cecilia

Yes! I’ve always felt, since I was a little girl, that I know god. I’ve always felt like I knew what he looked like. Ever since I was a little girl. Since I was four I can remember having a vision of god. You might remember this: my theory of nothingness. Since I was a little girl… “what if there was nothing? What would there be?” The answer was always nothing on a superficial level. But I was like ‘no no no! what if there’s absolutely nothing?’ Fifty years later, I come to find out that there’s a theory of nothingness. This is something people study and talk about. I’ve always had an inkling that there’s something more than just life on this planet on the 3D level. ;

Berta

I’m glad that you said that because what happens when someone that you already know (ten steps ahead) because not only your intuition but you’ve lived it. Some people come with these stories. I guarantee that you’re sitting there thinking, “Girl, if only you knew.” Does that happen all the time?

Cecilia

People come in with laundry-lists of things they want to fix in their lives or all kinds of complaints and it’s like if they only had a clue of what really mattered in life… then again I have to meet them where they are. That’s why they’re there. I do my job which is to get them more aligned in hopes that they eventually grow. I have seen it happen.

I had this girl with complaints who was just so…

There was a girl in the other room in her mid-30s that was about to go have her leg amputated because she had cancer. I went back into the other room to my patient that was complaining and said, “Just to put things into perspective… this might help you. When you’re grateful, everything changes. I have this young girl in the other room – she’s ten years younger than you are. She’s about to go get her leg amputated. She has cancer, she’s probably not going to make it.”

She didn’t. Rest in peace. She lived maybe about six months after the surgery because she was riddled with it. She was so hopeful. She was still so much more grateful than this other person in the other room complaining. Sometimes it’s hard. But you have to meet them where they are.

Berta

Out of respect and professionalism. Talk to me a little bit about gratitude. I know that’s a big thing for you.

Cecilia

That’s such a big thing. Now that I discovered that it’s an anti-aging factor as well… Bruce Lipton talks about this. At the end of the DNA we have the telomeres. They grow or shrink. When they decrease in size, that’s your aging process. They have now scientifically proven that being grateful helps the telomeres not shrink, which pretty much means you’re sort of slowing down the aging process. That’s scientifically proven through the telomeres. That’s physiological.

There are other aspects. When you’re grateful, that means that you’re giving thanks. If you’re giving thanks for your children [for example], that means you have something to live for. You’re thanking God for your children because there’s something that you want to live for. You’re thanking God for your work or for your adventure. All these things… the more you have to be grateful for, the more you want to live.

That wanting to live is also anti-aging. That is very healthy. It’s so important to be grateful. That’s number one right there. You have to be grateful for everything. If you’re complaining about something, be grateful that you’re complaining. That means you’re here to complain. My massage therapist, I saw her this morning, and she texted me to confirm the time that I was going to go pick up a gift card for someone. As I was reading my text, I was thinking, ‘she’s blind.’ She lost her sight and so she’s now legally blind. I thought to myself, ‘how hard must it have been for her to see the keyboard to text me?’

I was sitting outside. I do my coffee with God every morning. That’s my gratitude practice. I included that. I said, “Thank you, God, for my vision. Thank you for my eyes. Thank you for her being such a great massage therapist and being so kind.” But I included that because we’re not grateful enough. We’re just not grateful enough.

Berta

It’s easy to take things for granted. Those of you who will have the benefit of the video will see this woman sitting in front of me is 51 years old. Just trust what she’s saying about anti-aging because this is where we take notes now. You just said your coffee with God. I remember you introduced me to conversations with God by Neale Donald Walsh. It was your bible for a long time. I remember one of the things you told me… I know you gifted that book to several of us. You told me that what stood out to you was to even be grateful for things in advance. To thank God even in advance for things that are coming your way.

Where have you put that into practice? I know you’re going to say ‘everything!’ Where have you really manifested and said that it came from you being grateful in advance.

Cecilia

My God, you’re right: everything! Even where I live. I used to drive down the street and used to say, ‘I am going to live there.’ I’m grateful. I thank God for my apartment every day. It’s not such a big deal. You’ve seen it. It’s a small two-bedroom, one bath. I just love it so much that when I walk into my kitchen, I say, ‘Thank you God for my kitchen!’

I’ve said [thank you] in advance for becoming a body talk practitioner. I wanted that so bad and I thought it was so difficult. I thought it was never going to happen. [I’m thankful] for my family, for my health. I’m always thanking God for what I have now in the present and what I want to have in the future. Not so much in a materialistic sense. Even the feeling. Thank you because I’m joyful. Thank you because I’m wealthy. But wealthy I don’t mean money – I mean all aspects.

Berta

Freedom. Time to just control your life. When you first opened the wellness center, I think you were working so much. You had already programmed in your mind what you wanted your life to look like. Listen, she’s got a booming business, patients up and down, but she still has time for Pilates every day, and time to meditate, and time to do all those things that we are not even trying to make time for.

Cecilia

It’s funny. My last patient of the day today walked in around four o’ clock. I walked out of the other room and I guess it was messy because I was meditating laying down. And she’s like, “don’t tell me you’re meditating.” Because I had an extra fifteen minutes. I will take those extra fifteen minutes. Even if it’s five minutes. I take that to go in a little deeper, to check on myself, to check on my energy level, to meditate. Is there anything I need to be taking care of right now? I go into my meditation from my mindscape workshop. I observe what’s going on subconsciously because I can’t see it. I do this on the daily. I’m always meditating. Pilates is part of it.

If you’re cup is empty, you can’t fill someone else’s. That’s our job. We have to. Pilates makes me very happy. You’ve got to love yourself. That’s another big factor: self-love is huge. Once you really are loving yourself it’s like you need nothing else. By loving yourself, you really are connected to God more than anything. You know that once you have God you really need nothing else. God is enough.

Berta

How easy was it to get to that point?

Cecilia

It wasn’t. Absolutely not. But it’s fabulous to finally get there. You get there, I think, when life throws enough things at you that piss you off. You’re like, ‘that’s it. I’m doing this for me now.’ You start doing things for yourself and you realize what was I doing the whole time? Trying to satisfy everybody?

Nobody’s going to be satisfied anyway! You realize when you’re at a higher level that all those people you were trying to satisfy or were trying to challenge you were put there for a purpose. So you could get to that point. Some people will never see that. They will have hatred, anger, or resentment not realizing that you put them there to challenge you so you could push yourself to this point.

Berta

I think that comes with gratitude, too, that you become grateful for the challenging people in your life. I know that you are an expert and I’ve always told you I just suck at meditating. You said, “listen, that’s why they call it a practice, you just have to practice.” I say yoga is not my thing. I love savassana. That’s the pose where you’re just laying down. I say that I meditate about six hours a day. Some people call it sleep, but I call it meditating. It’s not really meditating because I wake up every thirty minutes.

 I know that you have been very deliberate about mastering the art of meditation. I just attended – in October, I believe – and I’ve been wanting to get to this class that you teach called Mindscape. I missed the one that you did six months prior. This one came at an especially important time for me. In fact, I wrote a whole speech about it that I’m delivering on Thursday about… one of the introductions when I got there. I didn’t get there until the second day because my mom was going into the hospital my day before.

I said, you know, I’m eternally optimistic to a fault. I think what happened was that wanted to be pessimistic with everything that was going on but I couldn’t because I kind of figured and had hoped that the mindscape class was going to shift things for me as far as my potential, my power, and me taking some kind of ownership for that. Even though that’s what I do. I love empowering people. But its what you’re saying: when your cup gets empty, everything is just more noticeable. So first of all, tell me a little bit about what Mindscape is and then tell me a little bit…

I got to hear some amazing results from people that had taken the class before that were there observing. The results that some of your students had with Mindscape. It’s just powerful as hell.

Cecilia

So Mindscape is a class that teaches you how to access many things. Firstly your subconscious. We live life based on what’s going on in our subconscious. But we don’t know what’s going on in our subconscious. We’d do something about it. We’d be better and do things in a better way.

It teaches you how to connect with the universal hologram which is where all the information, all the knowledge – past, present, and future – is. So you’re able to access that if you want to get answers, if you need solutions. Usually you go to a therapist. But you know what? A lot of people have emotional issues. The best therapist you can find is going within and accessing the universal hologram. That’s truth.

So if you go into your subconscious, you can heal your subconscious. You go into the universal hologram so that you can… there’s so many things you can do by connecting to the universal hologram. You can even go back in time – it’s almost like time travel – go to an event where you didn’t have a solution or result that you would have liked that affected how you responded and your life. You can go back and change that in a meditation so that you can get the feeling of what you would have liked, for example.

Now that just changed the whole thing in the brain, you see? So now you’re not affected by that any more. It’s all about what we think and our perception. Whatever happened back then that affected you, the result was a matter of perception. Maybe it wasn’t exactly how you perceived it to be back then.  You might as well change it to how you want it to be, right? We don’t even know if that really happened. How many times have people said to someone, “you remember back then when we did this and this?”

Then they’re like, “no we didn’t. It wasn’t like that at all. That is not what happened!” And who is right? Who is wrong? It’s a matter of perception. Why not be able to access it and put it how you wanted it, just so it can make that change in the brain. It’s a chemical change, which goes through the body and it changes the way you see things, right?

That’s just one of the amazing things that we do. Manifesting. It teaches you how to manifest by going through the right channels. It’s hard to. You can manifest by doing vision boards are great, of course, and visualizing. But if you’re not at the right frequency or at the right hertz in the brain which is going into the alpha state (which we connect there through the right side of the brain), it’s much easier to manifest on that level of brainwave. It teaches you how to go into that. It teaches you how to heal. You can make healing tools. It teaches you what your mind and how your mind affects your body.

We do these exercises where you’re just visualizing that you’re running and your heart will start racing just by visualizing it. Just to show you, just to prove to you that your body will react to what’s going on in your mind, right? We’ve seen that. We have a sad thought and our eyes tear up. It’s not really happening –we just thought it. We’re dreaming that we need to go pee and you know, all of the sudden, your bed is a little bit wet. It’s not really happening. It’s happening in the mind. You were dreaming that you were in the bathroom. Our mind is so powerful and our body reacts to our mind, right?

It does it negatively. Usually we have bad thoughts and it reflects in our body. We can cry or our heart starts beating fast or our blood pressure goes up. You get a phone call and it’s the hospital. You’re thinking something happened to a loved one, right? But the same way that that affects your body in a negative way, imagine how a good thought effects it. Imagine if all that yucky stuff can happen to your body with a negative thought, imagine thinking good thoughts all the time. The good stuff, the good, delicious stuff that’s happening to your body.

This course teaches you how to use your mind to your advantage on really high levels. It’s paradigm-shifting. Then you get to experience and see things and you’re like, oh my god, I never thought this was real. That right there shifted the paradigm for you. Now you’re open to bigger, better things. It’s like someone turned on the light for me now… I can see. It breaks up a lot of belief systems as well.

We thought it had to be this way and never thought it could be this way. We’ve been enlightened to something. The course is very powerful.

Berta

When is the next one?

Cecilia

It’s most likely going to be between February and April 2020. It’s to be determined.

Berta

What’s your website again? Can you share it?

Cecilia

WWW.QUANTUMENERGYMED.COM

Berta

Okay. I’ll have that in the information for the podcast. That’s something that would be great if people have a way of maybe subscribing to something so that there can be an alert when that comes up. I know those fill up very quickly. I know I’m going to want to take it again and I already told a bunch of people.

As you were talking, the mindscape makes things so easy. We make everything so frickin’ hard. And it’s not! The universe and god are working in our favor. We’re the ones that are working against ourselves.

A lot of people come to you for business. I know that they’ve had great success. I’ve heard stories of people getting on stage with Oprah because two days before they were telling you “how do I get on stage with Oprah?” That’s a true story!

What have been some of the ones that just sort of stand out? I know there are too many to mention because I know that this is a reason that people come to you; to help them with their business growth. A lot of times it’s something that they’re stuck. They’re derailed. Personally, you can’t build anything if you can’t fix what’s broken within yourself.

Cecilia

Well, firstly with body talk we’re able to treat the actual business itself. What we do is integrate a business matrix. This business matrix is a system and the system has a system like a body has. It has a heart, a brain… all businesses are a system. What we do is anchor it. If you don’t anchor something and you want it to grow, it’s going to topple over if it’s not anchored. We do this energetically. Of course the person has to also be balanced. If they’re not balanced, how can you balance anything in your life? Especially business. But we work with businesses specifically to anchor them so that they can grow and we anchor them by putting feminine, masculine, paternal, and maternal matrixes so that we can anchor it down. It’s like a Yin Yang balance so that we anchor it so that it can grow. We also analyze it and evaluate that matrix to see what’s missing. How’s the heart of that matrix? How’s the brain of that business matrix? Hmmm… the brain is not connecting to the heart. Let’s connect his energetically.

We’ll, use the person as the surrogate for that business.

Berta

Holy moly! Super interesting. I know you’ve had great results, that’s why I wanted to ask you. I know that you have top business leaders in South Florida and abroad coming to you for that. I just never understood even with as many times as I’ve seen you, what the mechanics were behind that element.

Cecilia

We put that matrix and it grows. There’s a lot of people who just had a job and all of a sudden they have a company that’s a very successful company and their lives have changed. I’ve seen this before my eyes. A lot of them… people will come in just for business purposes. They will come in on a weekly basis to check on their business. Check on my business, what does it need? We’re having a little problem with the money flow this last month. Can you see if there’s any energetic obstacle to clear that? Many times it’s come up it’s like, okay, the owners are not in harmony. Their energies are clashing, so we’ve gotta do an alignment here. Then everything balances out.

It can be anything, but yes business is a big – a lot of people come.

Berta

I think what you just said is important. A lot of people, especially in business, we’re being busy in the business and we’re not checking in. One of the greatest lessons that I learned through my mom’s hospitalization thing is when she was in the ICU every day they would do the rounds. About the third day, they’d stand in the room. They’ve got the pharmacy team, cardiologist, pulmonology, the nursing team, social worker. Everybody is just hovering around this main doctor from the ICU around this little upright computer. Every day, they’re going through the entire case. They’re repeating a lot of the same things every day unless there’s a change in the med. They would let me listen in. I couldn’t ask questions because they didn’t want to – it would take forever if the family started asking questions.

Around the third day, I was talking to a client. I said, I know what’s missing – you’re just not doing the rounds. We’re not checking in often enough in the business. I can’t even imagine for someone who is coming in every week or even bi-weekly or even monthly to check in on and tweak what needs to be tweaked with time. There’s time to recover. If you wait a year, the shit may have hit the fan. How do you recover?

Cecilia

It’s maintenance just like everything else. You maintain yourself. You go to the doctor. You maintain your car. You do the oil changes. I’ve had people who – if the owner can’t come – will send an employee to be the surrogate for their business.

Of course that employee loves it because they get to relax and they’re there for an hour on a nice, warm bed with aroma and the little eye-pillow with the lavender and they’re relaxing and getting paid for it.

Berta

But you know what? That tells you how much importance that owner puts into their business. It’s not only their livelihood. It’s the livelihood of their employees, those families. There’s a lot at stake. There’s this sense of responsibility for so many people. The web starts to stretch far beyond what’s happening just within that business. That’s a beautiful thing.

Cecilia

The majority of the patient-load that really maintains their business are western medicine doctors. The ones with the big attorneys. The ones with the very big businesses are sure to come on a weekly or bi-weekly basis. That’s why they have big businesses.

Berta

I know that a good portion of your clientele is really business-people. I know they come personally for themselves as well.

Cecilia

They come for both. A lot of times they’ll split the session. They’ll say do half on me and do half on the business.

Berta

And how much alignment is there, then?

Cecilia

Things start happening. A year or two years later we look back and say, “Do you remember where you were back then and where you are now?” They’re like, “Oh my god, do you remember? I came because I had a headache.” It’s never about the headache. It’s the universe pushing them to get in there because they need to get in there; things need to start opening up.

Berta

I know that in your modesty and in your humility you would never say anything out loud. If you were able to put that outside, how does it feel that you’ve been able to help so many people just because you dared to pay attention and sort of follow?

Cecilia

Grateful. Grateful because I feel that I heal in healing others. I’m healing myself. I don’t heal others to heal myself. Actually… sometimes I do. Sometimes, if I do, I wake up with a headache and I have to treat somebody. As soon as I treat somebody my headache is gone. I recognize that we are all one and we are connected. I’m grateful to have the opportunity to heal others because in healing them I’m healing myself and I feel like I’m healing a part of me and a part of the universe. You know what I’m saying?

I don’t do it with that purpose: “Oh I’m going to heal the universe.” I do it because that’s where the universe put me. I’m grateful for it and I love what I do. I feel like I’m at home. I feel like I’m having get-togethers with every client that I have. Every single one of them has become a personal friend. Every single one of them. It’s almost like having a lunch-date with every single one of them. They come, we chat, then we get down to business. It’s great. It’s like just being at home and I’m helping them, they’re helping me. They’re not doing it on purpose. They don’t realize that I’m receiving healing through them but it’s a win-win situation.

Berta

They become your family. You really have a vested interest in their healing and in their thriving and in all of that. I know that’s just how you are. Do you have any big goals already for 2020?

Cecilia

I’m so go with the flow. I do have a goal which I have no idea how I’m going to do it yet. It just came to me again. I don’t really set them for myself. It’s almost like they’re set for me and they’re downloaded. This is a little bit of a tough one, so I’m not sure I’m going to do it, but I’ve already seen how it’s starting to open. I’ve already seen my first contact because I asked, okay, how do you want me to do this. So they showed me something so I’m like, okay.

My next big goal is to take Christ consciousness into the military. So by Christ consciousness… a lot of people think it’s just to talk about Christ or the bible. It’s not. Christ consciousness is bigger than that. Jesus Christ is called… his name is Jesus – he wasn’t born Jesus Christ. He’s Christ because he had the Christ consciousness. Christ came before Jesus was even born. A lot of people are not aware of that, but Christ consciousness is being aware. Being aware of all these shifts. Coming in through the heart, going in deeper.

They say that in the right atrium of the heart is where the soul resides. It’s going deeper, it’s having that divine connection and being aware that we are all one, all connected, here for source to experience himself. As we can do that, we ascend. It’s a great time to be alive right now if you’re aware. We are shifting into the fifth dimension. We’re right now in the fourth dimension. We’re in the holding phase because this is about to happen by the end of 2020. It’s shifting. We’re seeing this all around. People are healing with energy – it’s being more widely accepted.

The paradigms are shifting and this is so important right now because it gets even deeper than that. We are now being aware that there are other life-forms on other planets. There are galactic federations and councils that we can’t see because they’re in other dimensions. We are, on a universal level, being open to this. Even in politics. There have been UFOs. Finally, it’s opening up. By that opening up, it’s opening up everything. It’s going to shift the earth to the fifth dimension. We need to get on that train. If not, we’re going to miss it.

We need to ascend with it. It’s a great time to be alive. That’s what Christ consciousness teaches you. We wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for God; for source; the creator of everything. This awareness – this Christ consciousness… Jesus was an ascended master. He encompassed that Christ consciousness. That’s why he was given that name. He had that awareness of being one with Source.

There are many other ascended masters that have that awareness, but we need to bring that awareness to everyone, right? So that we can ascend. I’m so excited to be alive right now at this time. It’s such a crucial and exciting time that all this is opening up. We are accepting of all this that’s happening in other dimensions; on other planets. I’ve been waiting for this all my life! I’ve know it since I was a little girl. Now it’s finally opening up; this is huge! Up to now, I think the government has known about this for so long. There’s been more – they just haven’t wanted to open it up.

Why? This is a little more a conspiracy theorists point of view. Just like the royal crown is someone that runs the world and it’s political. It’s about the nations on this planet and world power. It’s not! It goes further than that. It goes further than that, right? It’s almost like, well, who wanted to be the first one to land on the moon, right? It was a race, way back. If it happened or didn’t happen, I don’t know.

It goes further than just this planet. Now all that is opening up and it’s fabulous. Now that this awareness is happening, that that veil is being lifted. I’m really excited about that, but we can talk about it all we want. If we’re not feeling it, we’re not going to get there, we’re not going to ascend into that 5D. We’re going to remain on this 4D in a superficial level, here worrying about what kind of car we’re driving and worrying about what our house looks like and where we’re going to have our vacation. One thing is to travel with a purpose and the other is to travel just to say we’ve traveled.

We need to continue to make people aware of this through Christ consciousness. Like I said, it’s a hard thing. I don’t want people to think I’m bible thumping or anything like that – it’s beyond that. I did receive a message through my meditation – it was very powerful. I think I was asleep and it was just as I was waking up. It was so powerful that it woke me up. It was about taking Christ consciousness into the military. I was like, “How in the world am I going to do this? Little me? How am I going to get that out there?”

Then I saw another podcast where they were interviewing someone who was already in the military who is starting to do some type of energetic work. A veteran. Then I thought, maybe I’ll start there. At least that gave me some hope. Even if that’s not my channel, it gave me some hope that I know that energy of the military is open to that.

This is so necessary. War is old-fashioned already. The Cubans say, “Eso no se usa.” It’s not in style any more. There’s gotta be a different way. We’ve got to ascend from this. I know people, when they interview Miss Universe it’s all world peace. But for real: world peace. It’s time. We can have it.

Berta

First of all, I think that the fact you always pay attention to the mandate – a lot of these things that you’re doing is just falling in line with who you’re supposed to be to the world. To the universe. I think that you’ve been a good human by following the path and doing what you were called to do. A lot of people don’t. So the fact that you had that idea and to serve the military….

Cecilia

I’m very obedient to the universe.

Berta

Yes! As you were saying that, Tommy looked over to me. And I thought that maybe you thought that I had the perfect contact for you. Danny, who we spoke to last week in Tennessee. And it’s very doable. Even you know. I mean, you have to say it’s just that it’s a big deal, but you know that you’re more than capable, especially that you were chosen for it. And listen, if there are not enough people out there talking about it, you know that you’ll be the voice to be talking about it.

Cecilia

Even if it means just planting a seed, you know what I’m saying. I just keep meditating. Asking, tell me what else I need to do or how much I need to do. But it was very clear. I made that my goal. Of course I have other smaller goals, but that’s the biggest goal now.

Berta

This was fun, girl. Just like I expected.

Cecilia

Yeah that was a lot of fun.

Berta

Thank you for coming all this way. Thank you for bringing Jimmy. Her youngest just went away to college. It’s been fun, right?

Cecilia

Yes. It’s been very interesting. Now I really have so much more time to go in deeper because I have more time and it’s been really interesting. I think I’ve grown exponentially since my son left in October, when I dropped him off. We’re just in mid-December. In those two months, I think on a spiritual level I’ve evolved and grown exponentially just because I had even more time to deal with myself. There’s less distraction, so now I’m really faced with myself. So much has opened up. It feels so good and it’s scary, too. But you sit with that fear and you embrace it and you befriend it and it just becomes your friend. That fear becomes your friend. You just have to know how to deal with it and then you grow from it.

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