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Pink Headphones | Rocking the Virtual Stage w/ Rich Bontrager

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Welcome to the Dreamers Succeed Podcast. We are joined today by Rich Bontrager. “Trigger” Bontrager. Rich is a 25 year veteran broadcaster, public speaker, defy-the-odds guru… he’s just an amazing guy and is really reaching out and helping us speakers and coaches and everyone who has had to convert to a virtual stage. He has really taken the lead on helping us master the virtual stage. I guarantee you, if you don’t know him yet you are in for a treat. I’m so happy you’re here. Welcome, Rich!

Rich

Thanks, Berta. It’s great to be back with you again. Since you and I have met, this thing has all just exploded in a whole different direction than we ever thought it was going to go. Amazing.

Berta

And I love how you’ve been able to bring your expertise and everything that you always did because you’ve always been a stand for being in service of others. You’re just taking that and sharing your message and doing a lot of – I know there’s a lot of back office work that goes into that. You’re just putting it out there and giving it away to help people navigate this time and come out on top on the other side.

Rich

I don’t know about you, but so many people that I’ve talked to say the stages are gone, the phone calls are not happening. Mine is going the other direction, Berta! I don’t know what’s going on in the universe, but I’m busier than I’ve ever been in this business and we’re all at a standstill. It’s crazy to say that, but it’s also exciting that we get to jump together and do this together.

Berta

Exactly. Amen to that! I know you’ve got a hell of a story, do you want to share a bit about who Rich is in your own words? I would have a very different description because I know you’re modest. I’ve introduced you to many people in my tribe. I love doing that, because I know how giving you are and how generous you are with your expertise. Can you tell us a little bit about who “Rich” is. If we looked you up in the dictionary, what would it say?

Rich

First of all, thank you. You are the connector of all connectors I’ve ever met. Thank you for opening that Rolodex up and allowing me to get up on stages and meet fantastic people. I am the guy defying the odds. I’ve had near death experiences three times. That’s part of my bio. I tell people I should have been dead about three times. I was born with a disease. Here I am in my mid-50s and I’m still around. Age 10 I was in a fire accident that I either should be blind for sure or dead. Very traumatic event. And then also several years ago I had liver failure. My life was really moving along with speaking, ministry, a lot of different things going on. In the middle of that, went through a divorce, liver failure, and then a transplant in 2017. My life came to a screeching halt, which a lot of people are going through right now, Berta. I’ve mused on this a little bit. I’ve kind of gone, “I’m really calm. I’m really cool with this whole shutdown, stay at home (order). I realize I’ve been there. My life was frozen like everyone’s frozen right now.

I’m not afraid, so that’s part of that defy the odds attitude that you were talking about. I believe we can get back up. I believe we can do it. I love empowering people, coaching people, because I’ve been there and done that. Those are some of the things of the traumatic side. The other thing is that I’ve been a broadcaster for 25 years. I’ve been speaking, travelling, interview shows. I’ve been in this virtual world of a radio studio or broadcast set where you’re alone a lot of the time. Right now, Berta, we’re all alone trying to figure out how to do this.

Now, I’m trying to share from all those years of how to make it come alive – how to not just be in a box. The big stage is gone. The small stage is here, but this small stage does not have to feel small. It can be amazingly huge! It can be so big and so global. I’m trying to help people right now; sharing from my knowledge of the good, bad, and ugly of broadcast. I hope you make what you do better.

The other little side note is that I also have a horrible stutter that I grew up with. Throw that into the mix that I’m a broadcaster, communicator, and coach, and my tongue should not be working. That’s one of those miracle stories. I love when people know. If you think you can’t – you don’t have the skills or the ability – I tell people flat out that turning on the microphone should be the scariest thing in the world to me. It’s the most exciting thing to do now.

Berta

I’m glad you mentioned it. I think that plays into who you are. I think by your DNA, from birth apparently, you’re just a defy the odds guy. Come on… let’s see how we can prove that nothing is impossible. That right there, what you just said… for a lot of people who may not even have a stutter and just have that #1 fear is public speaking…

I know that you’ve been working with speakers for a long time and now you’ve just – on a dime – to take all the experience that you have and blessing us with all this information. It just happened. We blinked and here you were, giving us everything that we needed. Can you tell me a little bit about your ability to turn on a dime and switch it? I suspect it’s because you’re coming from a place of service that it was instant.

Rich

That’s a big part of it. I’m wired to serve people. I love people of all shapes, sizes, tribes… I love that you talk about your people as your tribe. That’s been one of my words. I bring people in. I build relationships and I love being in relationships with people. I make connections really easily, much like you do. When I meet somebody, I really fall in love with them. I want to help them. I open up my Rolodex. I want people to soar. I want people to fly and there’s a lot of great speakers and broadcasters that there’s that next step they can all go to – I want to see them get there.

One of the people in our common tribe now – Jay – is excited about the new ideas popping into his head. He’s a firecracker. He’s ready to go off! It’s so exciting to be around people like that. That’s where my heart of service is. Especially in this moment in time – you talk about doing that pivot (that turn), I’ve always been able to do that. Life is a great adventure, so through adversity I see great opportunities. Some people retreat back and they’re afraid of adversity. You yell “fire” and I’m going to go toward it. It’s fun and it’s crazy. We’re at the moment right now in our industry as speakers where everyone is yelling “fire.” I’ve been able to jump and say, “no, no, no!” This may be the best and most exciting new place for speakers to be… let me show you how.

Berta

The good thing is that you have the how. You and I really hit it off and just for the sake of transparency: Rich and I met in early March. We connected on LinkedIn and I just wanted to have him on the show because of his defy the odds mentality. We had a scheduled call and I landed in Denver and I said, Rich, I’m so sorry, I know we have a call now but if you don’t mind the noise I just landed in Denver and I’m getting on my shuttle to pick up my rental car.

He’s like, “What are you doing in Denver?”

I said, “I’m here for a speaking event that we’re putting together and a showcase that we do for speakers. Rich was like, “I’m in Colorado.” That was Tuesday. Saturday, he was on the stage, blessing our audience with amazing nuggets of wisdom and empowerment and encouragement. We clicked right away. I feel like I’ve known Rich all my life now. I know that that you’re attracted to what you can do to help people.

I know you have this dream. Especially with the dreamers – you and I are dreamers – just to go! So have you always been like that, Rich?

Rich

Yeah. I’ve always been that person. People say there’s a box. There is no box. I believe in big, radical, crazy dreams. I’m a man of faith, so my faith compels me and wires that into me. People still hear my crazy, whacked out dreams. Even now that we’re going through all this. I noodle a lot, I dream a lot, I still have my phone by my bed so that if I have an idea at 3AM, it’ll go in there as an audio file or a text file. In the morning I’ll pick up that dream. Right now, I’m dreaming about the virtual stage. I’m dreaming about the global impact and how we connect speakers and leaders and coach them. We’re in a whole new landscape.

When we met, we were talking about the real stage. Everyone that was there that day was thinking of the real stage. Within that week, Coronavirus hit. Things began to scale down. The phone calls began to come. The suspended events began to come. Within that time-frame, we went from, “Let’s talk about life and stage” to, “Oh, boy! What are we going to do now?” That’s how it really changed. To me, there was a whole new dream of “I’ve got these skills and I’ve got the stuff. Maybe I should put it out there for people.” Here we are now.

Berta

I was on your webinar last night. Guys, we’ll talk about it at the end, but Rich does these extremely generous webinars every Wednesday evening at 6:00 PM mountain time. You can figure it out from there depending on where you are on the map. It’s just an hour of total information. I think I took four and a half pages of notes from what you were saying yesterday. You did mention something which I want to talk about. A lot of the people in our tribes are speakers. How normal is the virtual stage going to be moving forward, even as we come out of this sequestration?

Rich

First of all, you’ve got to strap it on. This is going to come lightning-fast. I don’t think people are going to be ready for it. We’ve been in meetings, Skype, Zoom. People are living in their pajamas, living rooms, virtual offices that they never had before. They’re jumping on these phone calls. Even broadcasters are trying to do news from their kitchen.

I live in an industry where images is really important on camera, especially. I have a face for radio, and I’ve been told that. But now we’re all on camera and we’re trying to do this professionally. We’re going to go from, “Hey, we’re duct-taping this thing together.” Really quickly, it’s going to be, “You’ve got to look better, sharper, crisper…”

This stage that we’re creating is going to come alive very quickly. That does not mean we need to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars. Part of what I’m coaching is to help people know how to get involved with this incrementally and do it at a relatively inexpensive rate. Get into it so it’s polished and sharper and better. The industry right now is going to become a hybrid. This is kind of the downer side for some people because we love the crowd… we love the applause. When we present we all play off if it. We look for the people that are engaged, we play to it, it feeds our soul.

But that means right now we’re going to have less large gatherings going forward. There will still be the big stage, but some of the big dogs will probably be the ones most often getting it. The rest of us are going to fall into maybe breakout sessions or we’re going to have the virtual stage. We’re going to do it live, it will be streaming, there will be Q&A interactive stuff on the side or it’ll be recorded and you’ll do a breakout in a side room. There’s going to be so many ways this stage changes right now and no one has the pulse on it. The one thing is that the platform is going to expand, Berta. I think we’re going to go from every large arena in every large city to small, mid-sized communities could now have great events. Great speakers – fly one or two in to do the live stuff. Smaller venues now so you can get in the game.

You’re going to have virtual people bank in there, locked in there for great content. I think as speakers, we can learn how to do this now when those events open up… we’re going to be ahead of the game. So far ahead of the game.

Berta

That’s great advice, Rich. You also mentioned something yesterday about our sizzle reels and our demo reels.

Rich

You and I are sitting down right now. This is the Johnny Carson interview, Jay Leno type of stuff, which is good. As a broadcaster, most of us live here. As speakers, we live on a stage where we move, we interact, we use the entire breadth of the stage. We use our bodies, our faces, our voices…

A lot of where this is going to go to now is learning this craft of making what seems small seem just as big as the big stage. That’s where I really think that sizzle reels… you gotta make it look like you’re on the big stage now. You can’t make that sizzle reel feel like you’re doing this. This is okay for podcasts, this is okay for interviews. But last night I stood up during our presentation and I was talking about how they engage and come alive. Your sizzle reel has to show how you can do the interviews, how you can do the live presentations. Maybe one of the secrets will be to show people behind the screen. Show them what your environment looks like.

People are going to want to see how you’re pulling this off. There’s also the illusion. It’s kind of like Disney. Don’t ever look behind the curtain at Disney. You’re going to be really disappointed about what’s behind the curtain. If you can make this pop, people are going to call you because the other guy is still in his pajamas, in his living room. They’re going to look at you and say, “That guy knows how to rock the stage virtually.” I’m calling them because I want that on my screen, not just another talking head that looks average.”

Berta

When we had the event in Colorado Springs, you had that little card. I was reading mine the other day and I realized how timeless those rules are. I had never heard them before – especially presented the way that you did. Could you bless us by sharing those? I don’t want us to end the podcast without those nuggets of Rich-isms that are so important, especially now. We have an opportunity like we didn’t have a month or two ago to really be in a place of service.

Rich

A lot of this goes to risk. Leaders, entrepreneurs… we like risk. The #1 thing you hear over and over again is “I don’t do this because blank.” Fear and risk are bed buddies and they’re enemies. You have to get past the point of the fear and take a good risk. I talk about taking good risks because we’ve all taken bad risks: financial risks, bad staffing, bad decisions when you pivot, bad marketing decisions. There’s good risks. The number one I talk about is “Care more than people think necessary.” Right now, we’re seeing this on a global stage. We’re seeing CEOs and presidents begin to care more than people think practical. They’re opening up their pocket books. They’re dropping products off. They’re shipping things for free. They’re giving specials. People are caring more than they think necessary. I think people respond to that caring. Now, Berta, you matter like you’ve never mattered before.

The competition drops off because now we want to see everyone succeed. Care more than people think necessary; risk more than people think necessary. That’s number two. Now is not the time to sit back. I’m telling everybody on every call I’m on right now. This is not the time to sit still and wait for this to slowly roll out. We need to get ahead of the curve. We need to be the leaders. We need to take a risk and jump on. It’s not going to be perfect. I’m okay with that. We need to risk so that other people can get back in the game. Some of us are so afraid right now. The news, the information is all confusing. Our finances are upside-down. As a risk-taker, I want to lead the charge and encourage people to risk more than they think necessary. Then it’s going to be dream more than you expect. We both already talked about it, but we love to dream.

I like to hear the whacked-out crazy ideas. It feeds me. I love to hear it. They go, “this is going to be the stupidest thing you’ve ever heard.” When I hear it, I’m excited! The bigger the dream right now, the bigger the expectation. That’s number four. Expect more than people think possible. Right now in this new virtual landscape we’re in – this new way of leading and coaching and virtual classrooms and virtual churches and virtual everything. Expect more than you think is possibly going to happen. What happens if this goes real viral? What if people begin to realize there is no going back? I don’t think there is. What if they really expect the phone, the stages, the options. It’s all going to get bigger and bigger, so start expecting it. Don’t play down to it; let’s rise up and step into it. Those are the four good risks to take. They’re counter-intuitive, but right now I think they’re the best place to be.

Berta

I think now we have time. We’re paused. We’re more present than we usually are – hopefully if you’re paying attention. Some people are downright depressed and sleeping 18 hours a day. It is what it is, but I think that there are a lot of people in our circles that I talk to that are really good use of this time. They’re stretching the limits.

I was talking to the owner of the building where I rent my office… I had already paid the rent this month. He sent me a text this month saying, “Hey, don’t worry about next month’s rent. I want to make sure that you’re okay and we’ll just divide it and I’ll charge you half for this month and half for next month.”

I said, listen, things are okay, thank god. I appreciate you saying that, because I sent an email to all of my clients two weeks ago and told them that they’re not getting invoiced until all of this is over. But we’re doubling up on the coaching. We’re coaching on steroids and I’m going to be on them like white on rice. If they thought I was annoying before, I’m going to be even more annoying now. I want to make use of this really rich soil. Everybody is doing a little bit, Rich. Even with you – this investment of so much time that you’re doing to offer people the tools that we need to be ahead of the game.

I’m a recipient of that and I’m so grateful. But what you said about the dream… I’m that weird lady at Starbucks that will sit with these crazy shirts. If I have one on because I don’t realize that I’m still wearing it, somebody will say, “oh, I like your shirt.” That will open up a conversation and my first question is, “What’s your dream?”

Some of them look at me with a deer in the headlights look because they’ve never been asked that question before. Once you open the valve, it floods out. What are you hearing out there now that you’re having these communications with a lot more people that are now ready to take their dream and do something with it. They’re contacting you for coaching and ready to get on the stage.

Rich

One of the most common ones right now is the younger speakers are suddenly realizing that they’re techies. They’re now excited. They’ve played in the virtual world, they’ve done all of it all their lives right now. Right now, they’re going, “I can do this. I can Skype, Zoom, chat, video, tweet.” They know how to do this so well so they don’t have to compete with having the big resume of how many gigs you’ve done. They now know that they can get into this playground. They just need to learn how to speak better. They need to learn how to present better. Technology is already their friend.

I’m hearing a lot of people dreaming about it. They already have the toys and the gadgets. They want to go play in the playground.

Berta

We can use some fresh millennial blood in the speaking world right now, especially the young ones.

You’ve always coached people on the presentation and their speaking itself. Are a lot more people coming to you for that still? Or is it now a mixture of, “How do we do this virtually and how do I do it at all?”

Rich

It’s a blending of both. The stage/performance side is always going to be there. As a broadcaster, I’ve learned how to use my voice. Go big, go small, storytelling, emotion… most speakers are still trying to figure that out, especially the storytelling side. There are many leaders that will step up to the podium. They’ll hold onto the podium for dear life. They’re giving good information, but there’s no life or passion or energy.

There’s a lot of coaching still to be done. Get out from behind the podium. Be yourself. Put your full energy into it. But right now, because the stage has changed, you can be in a room by yourself. People think it’s tiny, but you can do so much in this room if you can make this environment come alive. Now the coaching is two-fold: how do you virtually create an environment that looks cool – looks exciting – makes you as a speaker get excited and communicates to the audience out there that this is big?

Change your office – no matter the size – into a virtual studio and present as you normally would. Use your body, use your energy, use your voice. We’re blending what we use to coach into a new style of coaching. That’s where I think the best bang-for-the-buck is going to come right now. I think people that learn this now – like I said earlier – if they can learn this now, when the phones open up and the gigs come up, people will be saying, “Okay, you are so good at this, how did you learn this in two months?”

They’re going to own it and rock it. It is a blending of the two old skills and the new skills. They’re coming together into this new hybrid.

Berta

You did your webinar yesterday and you were standing up. You were gracious enough to show us all the gadgets and what the studio behind the scenes looks like – as you suggested. You’re sort of owning the virtual stage and it may be because you have so much experience in broadcasting… there was nothing lost as far as energy from you being in that room. Is that something that you’re helping people with? Somebody who is used to that energy on the stage?

Rich

That is so important. People go small. They go into themselves. Part of it is that talking-head syndrome. The camera is here and they think this is good because they want to fill the space. Instead, you want to fill the space with your energy and your body. We talk with our hands. The energy aspect is that you don’t have to yell or scream, but what can you do to raise the energy in a way that it’s fun? One of the biggest tips I gave everyone last night was: the camera lens… that little green glowing light… it’s not a camera. You have to make it look like a person. Think of a person. Talk to a real person about what you’re presenting, how much you want to help them, coach them, love them… whatever it is! Even put pictures in front of the camera lens. Make it a real person. If you have it just be a camera, it will just be a camera.

That gets boring. You have to have this imagination. You have to imagine a crowd. Imagine that you’re in a room talking to this corner, talking to that corner. Just like we used to do all the time. Don’t just be frozen on this virtual stage. That’s a big part of the coaching right now: watching videos, watching YouTube channels.

Berta

Speaking of YouTube and videos: how important is it going to be for us to populate our repertoire with some virtual sprinkled in with what we have on stage?

Rich

If you don’t have a YouTube channel, you have to get one. That’s going to be a must now. If you have a webpage, you’ve got to link it into there and highlight a couple of your videos. You’re going to have to be on Linkedin, on Twitter, on Instagram. Instagram now has that IGTV where you can link those in there.

Some of them will do longer lengths, some of them are shorter. You’re going to have to learn how to take the video content to highlight your ability. You can say, “Look, I’ve got this group of videos. Purchase my video collection.” How many commercials have we seen of this album from years ago? We now need to figure out how to package our material. Do it in downloads… do it in kits. Your video collection now is going to be very important.

Berta

Let’s say you were giving advice to 18-year-old Rich. What would you say?

Rich

Start a lot earlier! Don’t be afraid of the Tony Robbins and John Maxwells and all that stuff. There’s always this thing that they’re the rock stars and I’m just not. I’ve had some broadcast friends that have all been that way. It’s been funny when I’ve had coffee and sat down. They take off the mask and you get to know them. They’re just as scared as you are. They’re all making it up as they go along. If I would have known that early on…

Some of my past friends have told me, “Dude, you do so well at this and I stink at this.” I’m like, no. I stink and you don’t. We all have this false perception. It limits us from really being present and doing the best we can.

Berta

For those of you who see the video – we post the video on YouTube of the podcast. Rich does not have a face for radio. He’s rockin’ this video stuff like there’s no tomorrow. Lookin’ like a stud! You can go and put a face to the voice. I know that you’re going to follow him. I want you to do that. I want to make sure that you’re getting all this valuable information. Listen! I know the caliber of Rich’s coaching. I know the caliber of what he can do. He helps people build amazing YouTube channels. The fact that we’re getting all of this right now from his generosity of just wanting to serve and be a stand and wanting people to use this time. Guys… I’m not even kidding. I would implore you to please take advantage of that. Rich… how can they find you?

Rich

One of the best ways is Richbontrager.net. That is my main website. You can email me directly as well: rich@richbontrager.net. If you want to get into the virtual stage – if you’re one of those people that’s thinking about doing this – I have a Facebook group. It’s all designed for coaching. Berta is now involved. And that’s “How to Rock the Virtual Stage.” I want you really to rock it. This can be tips, coaching, community, people sharing. My resources will be shared and of course that live webinar is also filtered through that as well. Next week, I was telling Berta before we went live here today. Next week – every week going forward on Wednesday nights – we’ll be streaming on Zoom with an Eventbrite invite.

Dual platforms, same message, live at the same time. I am so excited to see this expanding like that, so jump on board. I would love to hear from you. Also, thirty minute free consultation. If you want to get thirty minutes free, we can phone it, we can Zoom it. I want to hear your story, hear your dreams. What are the nuts and bolts questions you want to have answered? I’ll give you thirty minutes free and help you reach your dreams.

Berta

When you start doing the webinars next week, you’re going to be doing them on Facebook live and on Zoom? On both platforms, live?

Rich

Yes, so I’m filtering it through Zoom. There will be an Eventbrite spot going out now that will be everywhere you can find me. If you wanted to have a personal invite, rich@richbontrager.net. I will send you that link directly. You can get into that and you can choose if you’re going to be on the Facebook platform or on the Zoom platform. We’re going to have that simulcast both ways going forward. Because, Berta, like you said: the phone calls are something so fast now. I want to make sure the platform is big enough to handle everyone that we can get into this.

Berta

And on LinkedIn, look up Rich Bontrager. Trust me, you’ll want to follow him. He’s always posting and always sharing so much valuable information. He’s collaborating with people who are also in the industry. They’re doing great, beautiful things just like I said – to serve us. I know I am grateful and blessed to know Rich. I don’t want to sign off without asking you…

What’s the best piece of advice you’ve ever gotten?

Rich

What’s the best piece of advice I’ve ever gotten… wow…

Probably, “Don’t hold back on your passion.” I am passion-driven. I cannot hide my emotions. I cannot hide the fact that I get amped up. For a while, I’ve been trying to do that whole professional thing of being so professional. You know what I’m talking about, right Berta? I love to present professionally, but I have to laugh, I have to have fun, I have to let my passion go. In my church ministry for a while, they were like, “What happened to you?” I sat down with some really dear friends that were in my tribe were like, “One of the best things you do is that you just bring the heat.”

They said, “When you back off the gas, you’re not the same.” I did not realize that. Content was the same, the time preparing was the same. I was backing down a little bit because I wanted to be cooler. They said, “No, no, no… your passion bleeds through in every word you say. So always bring your passion.”

When I meet with people, whether it’s live or virtual, this is me. I dial it up to eleven and then some.

Berta

One of the biggest things is that you’re so authentic. You’re just real. “This is who I am. I’m not trying to pretend to be anybody else. Take it or leave it, but I’m going to tell it like it is.”

You’re not afraid of telling people what they need to hear and it’s all coming from a place of love. It comes from a place of knowing their potential. I think you and I had a conversation about this earlier… we don’t want to be frustrated with the potential that people aren’t using. If I can beat you up about it and you’ll do it: great.

Rich

That is a huge point. I love seeing the diamonds in the rough. I love pouring into them and saying, “You have so much more than you think you have within you.” One of those people was in our calls last night. Within our tribe, a relatively new individual. During the middle of our webcast, he created a virtual screen in the middle of the webcast. There they are. I can play with that type of heart any day. It’s very exciting to see instantaneous transformation in people. I’m real. I’m authentic. People call me the trigger because I pop off. I don’t know any better. I can pull it out. Yes, I will do it with love I will do it with grace. There’s so much potential. I don’t want to waste time. I’d rather tell you the good, the hard truth, so we can move the line further so we can reach those goals and dreams you want to get to.

Berta

Thank you, Rich. I know you’re so busy. You have no idea how grateful I am that you came to play today. I look forward to seeing you soon. I know I’ll see you via zoom. I’m hoping things will clear up. Maybe I’ll head to Colorado or maybe you’ll finally come down here and play a little bit.

Rich

I love the Florida area. I was on that coastline for three years during the transplant. Come this way, I’ll go that way. Right now, the virtual world is where we’ll keep meeting. Thanks for taking the time to have my come on here. Let me just give Berta plug for a second. There is an amazing crowd of people that stand up every day that I’ve gotten to know that are cheering. She’s an amazing leader. She is the connector. If you’re new to her tribe, she’s not going to let you off the hook. I just want to encourage people that are just getting to know Berta that there’s no hidden agendas here at all. Her heart is to serve; to give it away. Berta, thank you for what you are doing to open the doors to me, like you’ve done, especially at this moment in time. This is the moment that we need to open up doors. You’ve done it for me.

Thank you for all that you do for the tribe that you have.

Berta

Thank you, Rich. I’ll send you a check! We’re all in this together and it’s what you just said: the more we can give away and be of source right now, the better the world is going to be for it. I always say, “The more people are out there living their full potential, the better the world is going to be.” I won’t be around forever, but I have an 8-year-old granddaughter who is a nugget of joy. She’s adventurous. If I can make a little contribution to leave the world a better world for her, I’m happy.

So thank you, Rich. You are such a blessing to me and to everyone who meets you. Guys, look him up! Let’s go out there. There’s a lot of opportunities to do good and be great. You gotta stay close to home, but try to go play outside!

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